They both had issues. I believe her," tweeted domestic abuse researcher Dr. Emma Katz. Also I think he cut his own finger but you didnt ask that. Feel like Amber really hurt the bi community in more ways than one (which i understand is small issue in comparison). Ms Heard has filed a $100m counterclaim against Mr Depp for nuisance and immunity from his allegations. I think they both abused each other, and there are truth and lies from each of them. Same. And he used to be in my top 5 actors I would have loved to ***. . So mutually abusive can include physical vs verbal abuse (they do not have to be the same type of abuse). I agree I think shes very much so the aggressor as well. "I believe her because of my careful assessment of this case, and my very extensive understanding of what DA is like, what it involves, & how perpetrators & survivors think, behave and react. There is none. They loved sober JD. supports the work of the Press Council of Ireland and the Office of the Press They first met on the set of the film. advertising. Women who support Amber Heard in her trial against Johnny Depp say they have received online hate. All the while the abuser is often given the benefit of the doubt. Johnny Depps former manager has now supported Heards allegations. Johnny Depp's refusal to look at Amber Heard as she testified about the alleged abuse she suffered during their relationship has sparked a debate online. was testifying, I overheard a lot of people snickering, making snide comments, and laughing . I don't know the intimate details of their relationship. Also it puts the onus unfairly on the survivor. After doing some digging, some claim that Amber was potentially stealing quotes from movies and TV shows. All Depps team has to do is say something like Amber had over 50k photos on her phone. Users are reminded that they are fully responsible for their own Ive ranted about people before to my friends but Im not abusive. I didn't believe they could do anything for me. When Heard . When? and indemnify Journal Media in relation to such content and their ability to make such content, Testifying about her marriage to Johnny Depp, she detailed years of alleged abuse in graphic detail. He admitted it to his own doctor and those messages were shown in the trial. Shes going to have to be extemporaneous [done without preparation], and that is going to be hard for her.. You listen to your wife. they like him because hes a popular, power multimillionaire who is also a man. Amber has been proven many times to be the instigator.. They were mean, codependent. She took a sedative to knock her out in the same house with her abuser. I do believe Johnny is downplaying the severity of their fights, and I do believe amber is embellishing the shit out of them. be FAIR. And we sure as hell shouldnt have to wait for a man to back them up before we listen to them. Sometimes I wonder if Im watching clips from a different trial than everyone else, because from what Ive seen, both of these people seem toxic AF. Shes basically a brunette AH, and completely insufferable to be around. While Mr Marks said he didnt know of any, he went on to speculate, I assume Amber Heard thought her career would get better by bringing this out. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement and Your California Privacy Rights. posts, comments and submissions available. Still would be considered SA though. If you or someone you know is impacted by sexual assault, domestic or family violence, call 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 or visit 1800RESPECT.org.au. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. Aggressive_Elk_1754 3 mo. The mother of his children, Winona Ryder, Kate Moss ect.. All concluded he was not an abusive man. apparently saying he wants to rape her corpse is just angry ranting. As a society, its important that we believe women. Too many people are using this trial to air out their sexism, misogyny, and homo/transphobia which is not okay. the evidence points to her being a fat liar. Anyone who recalls the testimony of Harvey Weinsteins rape victims some of whom continued to have consensual sex with Weinstein after their attacks, who sent him warm emails, one even writing she hoped to introduce Weinstein to her mother can attest to that. Hollywood can put up with divas and drugs to make money, Mr Marks said, but added that they have drawn a line at allegations of abuse. LAST YEAR, AMBER Heard filed for divorce from actor Johnny Depp and subsequently filed a domestic violence restraining order against him. Clearly, the point is to establish Heard as a liar. The revelation has led to headlines like this. In a statement prior to the trial, Heard said she hoped that after its conclusion, I can move on and so can Johnny.. Just that language alone is highly disturbing and should have you think what is in the heart of a person who uses such language. She was crying - but there were no tears, Lawrence said. A sociologist who studies sexual violence recently explained on Twitter why a number of women who identify themselves as domestic abuse survivors do not believe the allegations of violence by. Amber story doesnt make sense?? Viewers believe Amber Heard's testimony was full of movie quotes. Entertainment lawyer says he believes Amber Heard thought she would benefit from Johnny Depp abuse claims. And I honestly cant be bothered with any of this and choosing sides. The bottle story is an obvious lie. Completely believable. The memes have been ferocious, sometimes consisting of a spot-the-difference comparison with domestic-abuse victims; at other times, televised courtroom footage has been appropriated to openly mock her appearance. As many have pointed out, however, none of this should come as news to anyone seeing as Amber Heard said Johnny Depp abused Amber Heard last year. Some weeks the internet is buoyant, all of us kept afloat by daft dresses and Kardashian weddings and Marvel actors saying theyve never been in the same room. That has to change. Some people do. . Johnny Depp and Amber Heard attend the Rum Diary photocall in Paris in 2011. Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. No other logical explanation. Completely believable. Lastly, yes it is not entirely a clinical assessment of Amber H. I didn't make a diagnosis. Well rally, we always rally, but right here, right now, it feels shit. ok, well he also sounded like an actor. : 29.7K.: 951. TikTok masa (@lutizluva): all the comments I get from those who don't believe Amber, these "arguments" give me reason to understand that the person who writes them has no understanding of what the abuse of an addicted person is. You simply cant work with him now., This wasnt just down to his anger, the magazine said, but Depps unquenchable thirst for revenge., Another studio head called Depp a huge liability . Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. As has Chris Rock, who said onstage last week that yes, we should believe all women, just not Amber Heard.. I think theyre both deranged liars. What really grinds my gears is that Amber is making a mockery out of domestic violence and will be used to discredit victims. Sounds better than she did it because lots of drugs , yeah being wasted doesnt help but I am hoping if she was wasted then it was at least unintentional. Note that once you confirm, this action cannot be undone. Because the idea that women are conniving schemers is more readily believed than the idea that powerful, famous men are capable of abusing their spouses. Eastern Eye columnist Asjad Nazir shared side-by-side shots of Heard and Depp in court to illustrate his suggestion that Depp's behavior was the result of past abuse. I'm inclined to sympathize with Depp. Lawrence said the real test will come when Amber Heard faces cross-examination. For more engaging celebrity content, visit 7Life on Facebook. Johnny tried to help her by telling her how to dress and what roles to take, and took it too far. Amber claiming she gave her lawyers the pictures and that the lawyers are hiding them does not make any sense.imo she got boxed in and the only way she could think of to save herself is blame her lawyers. Idk, wish I had time tonight to watch some of her testimony. Some still believe Johnny Depp is a wife-beater, and Amber Heard is the true victim in this situation. Just wondering if anyone out there believes her side of the story. "If [Heard] had kept her head down when he was talking she would have been accused of being guilty! Please note that uses cookies to improve your experience and to provide They are more inclined to believe a gone girl narrative than that a powerful man, who have severe drug and alcohol problems and history of violent outbursts, was abusive to his wife. So we got to see the contrast between the things that were rehearsed and the things she just knew.. But even the less aggressively Depp-pilled of us want to believe that the Caribbean pirate is blamelessif not squeaky clean then at least under the duress of drug addiction or acting out of character; that his violence can be somewhat explained away by a lapse of judgment or circumstance or both. i am sick to my stomach watching from home, can't imagine how he must be feeling.". (Yet these two are older than Depp, make Santa Claus look buff, and are greasy, sweaty, sickly-looking alcoholics. Code, or contact the Council, at www.presscouncil.ie, unless otherwise stated. Heard took to the . I dont believe her but I do think her mental state has played a role in this. The 2018 article does not mention Depp by name. Lisa even said she wasnt happy he was working with her. In her 2018 op-ed, Ms Heard wrote that like many women, I had been harassed and sexually assaulted by the time I was of college age. LAST YEAR, AMBER Heard filed for divorce from actor Johnny Depp and subsequently filed a domestic violence restraining order against him. For more information on cookies please refer to our cookies Alicia Lutes / Twitter / Twitter. this!!! that was weird now that I think about it lol, was she wasted? Unless she just didn't see anything wrong with it.I suppose she could have made a decision to get sober with him but I heard none of that kind of support. As he smirks and laughs as Heard testifies to horrific abuse, to Depp forcibly searching her vagina for cocaine and, in another incident, raping her with a liquor bottle. And two are middle-aged men who are white-knighting, accuse any woman saying they dont believe her of just being jealous because shes so hot and such a strong, successful woman and claim that its disgusting how women are defending Depp. Pick your battles. This is imo spot on and exactly what I believe. Depp has taken Heard to trial, accusing her of defaming him with domestic-violence allegations. BUT only one of them decided to put all this shit out in the public initially, and that was amber. Join thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their replies, Copyright The Associated Press All rights Reserved 2022. Now Depps former business managers are alleging that the actor did indeed get violent with Heard. this. On her first day of testimony, Heard, 36, said the defamation trial was painful. But she did. As the testimony continued, he seemed to have taken his sunglasses off, but continued to avoid looking up, instead appearing to doodle. "I felt safe talking to my mom because I knew she understood those dynamics and she wouldn't judge me for staying with him, for loving him even though this was happening to me," Heard said. After Depp allegedly threw a cellphone at her face, striking her in the eye, the 30-year-old actress filed for divorce. You can obtain a copy of the To revist this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. May 4, 2022 at 1:10 PM. But I kept quiet I did not expect filing complaints to bring justice. Heres how they summed it up, and note that it didnt include anything about actress Amber Heard: The statement begins with them telling readers that they have felt the squeeze and changes of these transformational times, and that they are parting ways in marriage. They assure fans the love between them carries on, evolving in ways it wishes to be known and lived. It is plain misogyny. Broadly speaking, witness testimonies can be persuasive, and with two actors in the dock, we can never be sure of the absolute truth. However the cavity search? I do believe that he retaliated at least once. "Him looking down most of the time was concerning. Mr Depp is seeking damages of not less than $50m. Could you imagine the rage you would have if your partner severed your finger? They bring gifts hell never open. Which was horrible and disgusting and deeply disturbed. But shouldnt we have just believed her in the first place. Kaur commented. Richard Marks was asked during his testimony if he knew of any actresses whose careers improved after levelling allegations of domestic abuse against men in Hollywood. Theyre accused of deliberately trying to destroy a mans life with false accusations. Unable to find it he searches ambers body. A presenter appearing on Australian breakfast TV show Sunrise has issued a brutal comment on the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard trial after the Aquaman actress took to the stand. And then she hit a point of no return and had to continue with that narrative. Though if Amber Heard is to blame, so too is Jason Momoa since it would also be his decision overall to end his marriage with Lisa Bonet. Whats stopping the rest of us? He focused on her crapping on his bed. I could care less about either of them I havent watched a single movie with either of them in it. I suppose my real question is, are they saying she did it intentionally? He was telling us things you could see he wasnt very happy to be talking about - but he was talking about it. There are lots of statistical studies done to back this up. From the many audios, we can assume he did not communicate those boundaries in an effective way, or that amber understood and accepted them. We want to believe the highest paid actor of all time. Two are women who believe that AH being abusive is the reactive abuse that the psychologist used to excuse her actions. Richard Marks says 'family-friendly companies like Disney' are the 'pinnacle' of . yes she sounds like an actress! . Were watching people actively seek out humor in domestic abuse as Roe v. Wade is terrorized by pro-lifers and as we see yet more episodes of racially aggravated violence. . Its recently been announced that actor Jason Momoa has ended his marriage with Lisa Bonet. Johnny, an addict, looks for the coke and trashes the room in the process. A Group Leader is a What to Expect community member who has been selected by our staff to help maintain a positive, supportive tone within a group. Johnny Depp has been found innocent. Im sure he probably was abusive in some way by being reactive. for the content of external websites. An American psychologist has revealed in a no-holds-barred interview why she doesnt believe Amber Heards court testimony. Theyre both unbelievably toxic. I dont know if that was a strategy from her attorneys, but it came across as disingenuous, rather than just having a conversation and telling us her testimony. I struggle to find the words to describe how painful this is, she said, PEOPLE reports. Hes no shy, poor guy here. But, I acknowledge that Heard's allegations are possible. ", I have been told abusers stare at victims in court. Why does such vile testimony consistently elicit contempt from Johnny Depp? She embellished and dramatized for support, love, and attention. The minutiae being combed through at the trial has come to feel less like a lawsuit and more like a torturous exorcism of the past, a thorough and painful raking over the coals of their four-year entanglement. Shes focusing on all of it. That is deranged. Another posted a photo of Depp looking down while he was in court, surmising that the actor's lack of eye contact was something that made his fans proud. I think she has a mental disorder thats the only break I think I can give her in this case. However, one, or a few instances of MUTUAL physicality does not equate to domestic violence in my opinion. I dont think it was as violent as she describes, but I can also see it happening with different details. And it is not about what you or I think or even JDs tiktok propaganda machine thinks, but rather what has been presented in the court and verified through authentication of the texts, emails, witness testimonies, expert witness testimonies, etc. I want to believe that some of us are offline and mildly compassionate or compassionate in a way that doesnt get tweeted aboutthat youre all out there being nice to each other and Im reporting on a tiny cluster of internet users with pitchforks. She messed up badly there. Heres what fans are saying on social media: SUSPICIOUS! I dont want to despair for humanity. Really thats it. But I really dont. Then after a while, according to Pennington, Heard realises Johnny wasn't joking and goes off looking for him. Amber struggles with mental health issues and Johnny with substance abuse. She was dragged into this. He said the column was geared to Hollywood who got the message loud and clear. Photo by STEVE HELBER/POOL/AFP via Getty Images. A lot of people are not teenaged boys on the internet. because he is Johnny Deep. No. There are factors that point to a power dynamic that would lend to abuse on his part. Amber Heard shared disturbing testimony about alleged abuse by Johnny Depp, and TikTok users mocked her. Depp denied the allegations of domestic violence at the time despite photos, videos and texts between Heard and Depps assistant that suggested otherwise. If he had beaten her like she says and there were pictures I don't think there would be a trial. "Hear people that I knewsome well, some notmy ex-husband with whom I shared a life, speak about our lives in the way that they have.". Content copyright Journal Media Ltd. 2023 Registered in Dublin, registration number: I think in this situation they are both abusers and the victim. Please dont tell me she was sober. By continuing to browse, you agree to the use of cookies. Edit: wording for accuracy. All the essentials: top fashion stories, editors picks, and celebrity style. Especially, when the news spreads about Amber Heard had flirting with Momoa. I also believe his version of the story of the headbutt (she was hitting him, he grabbed her flailing arms and accidentally head butted her) although, I believe amber in that he probably head butted her a lot harder than he claims, which did leave bruises. His die hard fans argue that he wanted to protect her by saying it was him, but just look at this message. 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